The Cusp explores how AI is changing the ways we learn and work. Hosted by veteran journalist Paul Fain, the podcast features interviews with decision makers and innovators who are at the forefront of this change.


Episode 8

Ron Smith, vice president of philanthropy at Salesforce, has overseen more than $225M in giving. In this episode, he talks with host Paul Fain about how to be thoughtful about AI’s rapid integration into education in order to ensure that students aren’t left behind.

Ellie Bertani, president and CEO of the GitLab Foundation, also joins Fain for this episode. Bertani describes the foundation’s data-based philosophy on AI and economic mobility. She also shares an optimistic vision for the future, with concrete suggestions about how to get there.

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